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		<title>By: AdamMaguire.com - Blog of Irish Journalist Adam Maguire &#187; Archives &#187; O2&#8217;s iPhone conundrum</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdamMaguire.com - Blog of Irish Journalist Adam Maguire &#187; Archives &#187; O2&#8217;s iPhone conundrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pat Phelan has his own thoughts on what they (and their international counterparts) could do - basically his idea is that they offer coupons which allow iPhone users to upgrade to the 3G model at a low price, then refurbish the traded in 2.5G models and give them free to new customers who want an iPhone but don&#8217;t care about 3G. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Pat Phelan has his own thoughts on what they (and their international counterparts) could do &#8211; basically his idea is that they offer coupons which allow iPhone users to upgrade to the 3G model at a low price, then refurbish the traded in 2.5G models and give them free to new customers who want an iPhone but don&#8217;t care about 3G. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mj</title>
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		<dc:creator>mj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pat - I&#039;ll just have to disagree and leave it at that. I think it&#039;s a daft idea that wouldn&#039;t sell. 

I agree with Edward Palonek that 3G is being horribly badly neglected by the telecoms companies. I tried one of the &#039;3G&#039; dongles offered by Three the other day and managed to get 200 kbps. That&#039;s utter bollocks. Who would want it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pat &#8211; I&#8217;ll just have to disagree and leave it at that. I think it&#8217;s a daft idea that wouldn&#8217;t sell. </p>
<p>I agree with Edward Palonek that 3G is being horribly badly neglected by the telecoms companies. I tried one of the &#8217;3G&#8217; dongles offered by Three the other day and managed to get 200 kbps. That&#8217;s utter bollocks. Who would want it!</p>
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		<title>By: Palonek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palonek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 14:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget that apple is just expanding their markets. They will soon be in Canadian market with the version 1 phone. EU is bound to be expanded later this year too. And not mention China with over 200 million cell phone users. All these collected phones could be sold in other markets. 
The other major components of 3G in North America is that it is 
a) Not being promoted by the Cell Phone companies
b) Cell phone companies are not utilizing and providing the services that 3G can offer. 
It seems it&#039;s a little backward thinking, no? 

&lt;strong&gt;Palonek&lt;/strong&gt;
http://www.edward-palonek.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that apple is just expanding their markets. They will soon be in Canadian market with the version 1 phone. EU is bound to be expanded later this year too. And not mention China with over 200 million cell phone users. All these collected phones could be sold in other markets.<br />
The other major components of 3G in North America is that it is<br />
a) Not being promoted by the Cell Phone companies<br />
b) Cell phone companies are not utilizing and providing the services that 3G can offer.<br />
It seems it&#8217;s a little backward thinking, no? </p>
<p><strong>Palonek</strong><br />
<a href="http://www.edward-palonek.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.edward-palonek.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pat Phelan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Phelan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 09:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@matt
give people iPhones on the cheap?
yes
more contracts for AT&amp;T :-)
you will find the AT&amp;T have no love for the iPhone its a device to them that allows them to sell contracts to people.
Thats it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@matt<br />
give people iPhones on the cheap?<br />
yes<br />
more contracts for AT&#038;T <img src='http://patphelan.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
you will find the AT&#038;T have no love for the iPhone its a device to them that allows them to sell contracts to people.<br />
Thats it</p>
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		<title>By: mj</title>
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		<dc:creator>mj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 09:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...this brilliant idea is....give people iPhones on the cheap...

This is the same sort of argument where people say Apple should do a cheap Mac for people who don&#039;t want to spend more than 50 quid on a computer. It doesn&#039;t compute.

When they release the new iPhone, I will upgrade, of course. But a member of my family will likely get the old one.

Cheaper prices != more buyers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;this brilliant idea is&#8230;.give people iPhones on the cheap&#8230;</p>
<p>This is the same sort of argument where people say Apple should do a cheap Mac for people who don&#8217;t want to spend more than 50 quid on a computer. It doesn&#8217;t compute.</p>
<p>When they release the new iPhone, I will upgrade, of course. But a member of my family will likely get the old one.</p>
<p>Cheaper prices != more buyers</p>
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		<title>By: REG CROWDER</title>
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		<dc:creator>REG CROWDER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 08:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat, not only are you on the right track -- you may be the only telecommunications blogger on the planet who has any connection with reality.

And while I&#039;m at it, could somebody tell me (again) why I should give even a tinker&#039;s damn about 3G?

You have a great company, Pat. Don&#039;t let the other lunatics make you nuts.

REG CROWDER
Freelance Business Journalist
London, UK &amp; Brittany, France
http://www.RegCrowder.com
http://www.journalistdirectory.com/journalist/TgTQ/REG-CROWDER</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat, not only are you on the right track &#8212; you may be the only telecommunications blogger on the planet who has any connection with reality.</p>
<p>And while I&#8217;m at it, could somebody tell me (again) why I should give even a tinker&#8217;s damn about 3G?</p>
<p>You have a great company, Pat. Don&#8217;t let the other lunatics make you nuts.</p>
<p>REG CROWDER<br />
Freelance Business Journalist<br />
London, UK &amp; Brittany, France<br />
<a href="http://www.RegCrowder.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.RegCrowder.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.journalistdirectory.com/journalist/TgTQ/REG-CROWDER" rel="nofollow">http://www.journalistdirectory.com/journalist/TgTQ/REG-CROWDER</a></p>
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		<title>By: Red Links 05/05/08 : Alexia Golez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Links 05/05/08 : Alexia Golez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 06:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] proposes a way for Apple to sell 15 million iPhones. Alas, I don&#8217;t think Apple will [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 15:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here in the USA with the exception of a few techie/geeky types of people almost no one has the slightest clue what 3G is. even the sales people at the store are not very educated. they consistently make up things about how the networks they sell service for are 100% 4th generation, etc. to get lots of people to upgrade on for the purpose of 3G they need to spell out exactly the advantages. i do not think AT&amp;T really wants 3G phones to be used for much more than status symbols. the cell tower back haul over here really is not equipped for very high capacities.

of course europe and asia are a totally different story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here in the USA with the exception of a few techie/geeky types of people almost no one has the slightest clue what 3G is. even the sales people at the store are not very educated. they consistently make up things about how the networks they sell service for are 100% 4th generation, etc. to get lots of people to upgrade on for the purpose of 3G they need to spell out exactly the advantages. i do not think AT&amp;T really wants 3G phones to be used for much more than status symbols. the cell tower back haul over here really is not equipped for very high capacities.</p>
<p>of course europe and asia are a totally different story.</p>
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		<title>By: NaeNae</title>
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		<dc:creator>NaeNae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 14:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T-mobile just open 3G this weekend with 20 other markets to follow shortly (www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=14010).  If Simable works with iPhone then I know what my hubby wants for Father&#039;s Day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T-mobile just open 3G this weekend with 20 other markets to follow shortly (www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=14010).  If Simable works with iPhone then I know what my hubby wants for Father&#8217;s Day!</p>
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		<title>By: Eoghan McCabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eoghan McCabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 14:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clever idea. I certainly wouldn&#039;t complain if they did this.

But could it set a precedent that Apple might not like to have to keep up? I&#039;ve got a first generation iPhone, iMac and MacBook Air. It hurts when new updates or price cuts land. But isn&#039;t that price an early adopter knowingly pays?

I&#039;m very interested to see what they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clever idea. I certainly wouldn&#8217;t complain if they did this.</p>
<p>But could it set a precedent that Apple might not like to have to keep up? I&#8217;ve got a first generation iPhone, iMac and MacBook Air. It hurts when new updates or price cuts land. But isn&#8217;t that price an early adopter knowingly pays?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very interested to see what they do.</p>
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