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		<title>By: Lynda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you put an o2 sim you already have on bill-pay into the free phones and carry on your original price plan or do you have to sigh up and pay o2 a fortune extra every month?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you put an o2 sim you already have on bill-pay into the free phones and carry on your original price plan or do you have to sigh up and pay o2 a fortune extra every month?</p>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whats the fuss about? If someone doent want their iPhone give it to me, i would be happy to sign the dotted line for them. Anyway, its O2 that are prob making them do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whats the fuss about? If someone doent want their iPhone give it to me, i would be happy to sign the dotted line for them. Anyway, its O2 that are prob making them do that.</p>
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		<title>By: hacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>hacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@paul@yougetitbalk.com: i could not agree with you more. way to attrack hits, paddy. 

now let&#039;s see who gets fired for sharing apple internal info...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@paul@yougetitbalk.com: i could not agree with you more. way to attrack hits, paddy. </p>
<p>now let&#8217;s see who gets fired for sharing apple internal info&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter121</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter121</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a shame that people get taken in by the behaviour of apple/sony et al.
They like to make a big thing of all their corporate dictates. I am convinced they do this to make you want the product more. when people realise that when htc bring their version of the i-phone out nobody would buy the apple version with all the baggage that comes with it. 2.5g/ edge its outdated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a shame that people get taken in by the behaviour of apple/sony et al.<br />
They like to make a big thing of all their corporate dictates. I am convinced they do this to make you want the product more. when people realise that when htc bring their version of the i-phone out nobody would buy the apple version with all the baggage that comes with it. 2.5g/ edge its outdated.</p>
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		<title>By: paul@yougetitbalk.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul@yougetitbalk.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The employees getting the iphones are getting a discount on the monthly fee they have to pay o2  - 30 per month.

Great title on this post - there would have 4 comments if it said &quot; Apple gives iphones to staff&quot; . A career as a subeditor beckons Pat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The employees getting the iphones are getting a discount on the monthly fee they have to pay o2  &#8211; 30 per month.</p>
<p>Great title on this post &#8211; there would have 4 comments if it said &#8221; Apple gives iphones to staff&#8221; . A career as a subeditor beckons Pat.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand .... phones can be tracked on networks based on unit hardware serial number, phone number, and MAC address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand &#8230;. phones can be tracked on networks based on unit hardware serial number, phone number, and MAC address.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK u get a iphone given to you by the company that makes them and you are asked to only use the carrier that they have licensed to sell them.... and the problem is?
I don&#039;t see how this is blackmail ...... i mean you are an employee of the company as part of your employment agreement you would sign a policy saying you would abide by company policy...you signed you are being given equipment...same as software</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK u get a iphone given to you by the company that makes them and you are asked to only use the carrier that they have licensed to sell them&#8230;. and the problem is?<br />
I don&#8217;t see how this is blackmail &#8230;&#8230; i mean you are an employee of the company as part of your employment agreement you would sign a policy saying you would abide by company policy&#8230;you signed you are being given equipment&#8230;same as software</p>
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 01:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well there irish so its gunna HAVE TO BE IRISH TO BE LEGIBLE bloddy idiots the only reason the phones are on O2 is cuz O2 is the only mobile network with the capacity to succesfully have more than 25% of the population of the uk on 3G or edge at once you morons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there irish so its gunna HAVE TO BE IRISH TO BE LEGIBLE bloddy idiots the only reason the phones are on O2 is cuz O2 is the only mobile network with the capacity to succesfully have more than 25% of the population of the uk on 3G or edge at once you morons</p>
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		<title>By: Cla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that O2 might be aware if the phone is used on other networks when there is an IMEI check for theft.

Some countries in Europe (Italy and Germany, if I remember correctly,maybe France and/or Austria) have a national cross-operator DB of IMEIs of stolen phones, so that if you report the lost IMEI to your carrier the phone won&#039;t work on any network on that country. (sadly no global EU initiatives)
I don&#039;t know if this applies to Ireland.

So maybe when the phone registers to a network, the operator queries the database with , and maybe (probably) other operators (like O2) might then know that the phone with IMEI X is on network Y.

That, as i explained, wouldn&#039;t work abroad.

This might be how O2 may know if an iPhone (i call it iCabin :) ) is working on other networks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that O2 might be aware if the phone is used on other networks when there is an IMEI check for theft.</p>
<p>Some countries in Europe (Italy and Germany, if I remember correctly,maybe France and/or Austria) have a national cross-operator DB of IMEIs of stolen phones, so that if you report the lost IMEI to your carrier the phone won&#8217;t work on any network on that country. (sadly no global EU initiatives)<br />
I don&#8217;t know if this applies to Ireland.</p>
<p>So maybe when the phone registers to a network, the operator queries the database with , and maybe (probably) other operators (like O2) might then know that the phone with IMEI X is on network Y.</p>
<p>That, as i explained, wouldn&#8217;t work abroad.</p>
<p>This might be how O2 may know if an iPhone (i call it iCabin <img src='http://patphelan.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) is working on other networks.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat your right to a point, but they are getting a free iPhone in the deal.

Not sure i would use the word BlackMail, and I hate to agree with  Twenty Major  but....

&lt;blockquote&gt;2. I understand that each iPhone can be uniquely identified and tracked via a unique iPhone identification&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That sounds like a privacy issue, are they tracking private phone calls, data - text messages, it most lightly does not mean this, but it is phrased in a very threating manner...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat your right to a point, but they are getting a free iPhone in the deal.</p>
<p>Not sure i would use the word BlackMail, and I hate to agree with  Twenty Major  but&#8230;.</p>
<blockquote><p>2. I understand that each iPhone can be uniquely identified and tracked via a unique iPhone identification</p></blockquote>
<p>That sounds like a privacy issue, are they tracking private phone calls, data &#8211; text messages, it most lightly does not mean this, but it is phrased in a very threating manner&#8230;</p>
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