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		<title>By: bernard</title>
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		<dc:creator>bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said in http://www.esyurl.com/c4h, http://www.esyurl.com/c4i, &amp; http://www.esyurl.com/c4j

Google, like the other device manufacturers are greedy.

They want the large rebates from the operators.

They want the exclusivity that being on one operator gives them.

Customers want the exclusivity that only being able to get a device on one network gives them.

In the end, the only party that will change that is....the operators. Either by getting it rammed down their throat, or with a change of ideas...

I&#039;d like to see the second one happening, but....I am not holding my breath.

There is no reason why phones *have* to be sold with a contract, but as long as the operators give the manufacturers the big wedges, and the regulators don&#039;t force their hand, the opposite isn&#039;t going to happen any time soon.

See you next week Pat. I&#039;ll be the one throwing the tomatoes :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said in <a href="http://www.esyurl.com/c4h" rel="nofollow">http://www.esyurl.com/c4h</a>, <a href="http://www.esyurl.com/c4i" rel="nofollow">http://www.esyurl.com/c4i</a>, &amp; <a href="http://www.esyurl.com/c4j" rel="nofollow">http://www.esyurl.com/c4j</a></p>
<p>Google, like the other device manufacturers are greedy.</p>
<p>They want the large rebates from the operators.</p>
<p>They want the exclusivity that being on one operator gives them.</p>
<p>Customers want the exclusivity that only being able to get a device on one network gives them.</p>
<p>In the end, the only party that will change that is&#8230;.the operators. Either by getting it rammed down their throat, or with a change of ideas&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see the second one happening, but&#8230;.I am not holding my breath.</p>
<p>There is no reason why phones *have* to be sold with a contract, but as long as the operators give the manufacturers the big wedges, and the regulators don&#8217;t force their hand, the opposite isn&#8217;t going to happen any time soon.</p>
<p>See you next week Pat. I&#8217;ll be the one throwing the tomatoes <img src='http://patphelan.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bernard</title>
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		<dc:creator>bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said in http://www.esyurl.com/c4h, http://www.esyurl.com/c4i, &amp; http://www.esyurl.com/c4j

Google, like the other device manufacturers are greedy.

They want the large rebates from the operators.

They want the exclusivity that being on one operator gives them.

Customers want the exclusivity that only being able to get a device on one network gives them.

In the end, the only party that will change that is....the operators. Either by getting it rammed down their throat, or with a change of ideas...

I&#039;d like to see the second one happening, but....I am not holding my breath.

There is no reason why phones *have* to be sold with a contract, but as long as the operators give the manufacturers the big wedges, and the regulators don&#039;t force their hand, the opposite isn&#039;t going to happen any time soon.

See you next week Pat. I&#039;ll be the one throwing the tomatoes at the o2 guys ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said in <a href="http://www.esyurl.com/c4h" rel="nofollow">http://www.esyurl.com/c4h</a>, <a href="http://www.esyurl.com/c4i" rel="nofollow">http://www.esyurl.com/c4i</a>, &amp; <a href="http://www.esyurl.com/c4j" rel="nofollow">http://www.esyurl.com/c4j</a></p>
<p>Google, like the other device manufacturers are greedy.</p>
<p>They want the large rebates from the operators.</p>
<p>They want the exclusivity that being on one operator gives them.</p>
<p>Customers want the exclusivity that only being able to get a device on one network gives them.</p>
<p>In the end, the only party that will change that is&#8230;.the operators. Either by getting it rammed down their throat, or with a change of ideas&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see the second one happening, but&#8230;.I am not holding my breath.</p>
<p>There is no reason why phones *have* to be sold with a contract, but as long as the operators give the manufacturers the big wedges, and the regulators don&#8217;t force their hand, the opposite isn&#8217;t going to happen any time soon.</p>
<p>See you next week Pat. I&#8217;ll be the one throwing the tomatoes at the o2 guys <img src='http://patphelan.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aryeh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aryeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree Pat. I got excited about the rumors of the home activation for the iPhone but its just to cut down the lines you still need to go to the store to pick up the phone.   
Why should all these phones be sold with a contact? its enough. 

http://technmarketing.com/2008/09/22/iphone-home-activation/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree Pat. I got excited about the rumors of the home activation for the iPhone but its just to cut down the lines you still need to go to the store to pick up the phone.<br />
Why should all these phones be sold with a contact? its enough. </p>
<p><a href="http://technmarketing.com/2008/09/22/iphone-home-activation/" rel="nofollow">http://technmarketing.com/2008/09/22/iphone-home-activation/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pat Phelan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Phelan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again with the hacks Markus :-)
My point is, Why should we have to hack, we own the device, we paid for it.
Why aren&#039;t the mobile networks delighted to have us as customers?
Why do we hugely overpay for cheap devices over the lifetime of a contract?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again with the hacks Markus <img src='http://patphelan.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
My point is, Why should we have to hack, we own the device, we paid for it.<br />
Why aren&#8217;t the mobile networks delighted to have us as customers?<br />
Why do we hugely overpay for cheap devices over the lifetime of a contract?</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Göbel's Tech News Comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus Göbel's Tech News Comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s just take the Android source code and install it wherever! I already have it running on a Nokia N810 and nearly got it running on a HTC Touch. There are enough internet forums explaining how to do it. It will be much easier from next week on when the Android source code will be free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s just take the Android source code and install it wherever! I already have it running on a Nokia N810 and nearly got it running on a HTC Touch. There are enough internet forums explaining how to do it. It will be much easier from next week on when the Android source code will be free.</p>
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