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	<title>Comments on: Marketers missed the best op of the year with The Scobles pregnancy</title>
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		<title>By: Lar Veale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lar Veale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My missus is due in about 9 weeks so if any #nappy or #diaper companies want to give me a year&#039;s supply of nappies for Me3.0, I&#039;d happily engage in one of these two-way conversations I hear so much about. Oh, and I&#039;m &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/laurenceveale/status/1412188605&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@laurenceveale&lt;/a&gt; on twitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My missus is due in about 9 weeks so if any #nappy or #diaper companies want to give me a year&#8217;s supply of nappies for Me3.0, I&#8217;d happily engage in one of these two-way conversations I hear so much about. Oh, and I&#8217;m <a href="http://twitter.com/laurenceveale/status/1412188605" rel="nofollow">@laurenceveale</a> on twitter.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeb Brilliant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeb Brilliant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 04:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat, 
I&#039;m late to comment but you are right on.  Twitter offers such outreach to consumers for companies, they just have to take advantage of it.  

Good post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat,<br />
I&#8217;m late to comment but you are right on.  Twitter offers such outreach to consumers for companies, they just have to take advantage of it.  </p>
<p>Good post.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelley Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelley Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Wall Street Journal has an article on Brazil&#039;s Telefonica hiring a TV personality (who has a following of 18,000) to mention the company in his Tweets.  http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123741800551177861.html

What if companies were to do more of this?  Like Pampers offering folks with large followings like the Scobles to Tweet about them for either free products or money?

I have no doubt that commercialization is coming to Twitter, it&#039;s just a matter of how it&#039;s done and if it is done right.  Companies should be careful not to raise the ire of Tweople though, Motrin anyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wall Street Journal has an article on Brazil&#8217;s Telefonica hiring a TV personality (who has a following of 18,000) to mention the company in his Tweets.  <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123741800551177861.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123741800551177861.html</a></p>
<p>What if companies were to do more of this?  Like Pampers offering folks with large followings like the Scobles to Tweet about them for either free products or money?</p>
<p>I have no doubt that commercialization is coming to Twitter, it&#8217;s just a matter of how it&#8217;s done and if it is done right.  Companies should be careful not to raise the ire of Tweople though, Motrin anyone!</p>
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		<title>By: John O'Shea</title>
		<link>http://patphelan.net/marketers-missed-the-best-op-of-the-year-with-the-scobles-pregnancy/comment-page-1/#comment-501906</link>
		<dc:creator>John O'Shea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not a fail.  Scoble is an outlier model case and not an appropriate subject for this question (he is widely known, at least amongst the bleeding edge tech community but not beyond - the rest of us only has the purchasing power of one).  

Online marketers don&#039;t know enough about a tweeter of a single tweet to be able accurately and consistently target responses.  They also have brands to protect so they can&#039;t just scattergun everyone with spam.  

There also just isn&#039;t enough scope for automating interaction via twitter so it is not cost effective for online marketers to engage this way on a global scale.  I&#039;m not including the vanity &quot;Look we&#039;re a multinational and we&#039;re on twitter&quot; accounts that some companies like VMware, Dell etc run.  

Even a client driven engagement (as advocated by the VRM crowd), where the individual decides to follow the company to get updates won&#039;t work via twitter.  The interface between the two parties simply isn&#039;t fine grained or sophisticated enough to do any sort of intelligent @reply/tweet filtering.

Facebook on the other hand is a totally different proposition...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not a fail.  Scoble is an outlier model case and not an appropriate subject for this question (he is widely known, at least amongst the bleeding edge tech community but not beyond &#8211; the rest of us only has the purchasing power of one).  </p>
<p>Online marketers don&#8217;t know enough about a tweeter of a single tweet to be able accurately and consistently target responses.  They also have brands to protect so they can&#8217;t just scattergun everyone with spam.  </p>
<p>There also just isn&#8217;t enough scope for automating interaction via twitter so it is not cost effective for online marketers to engage this way on a global scale.  I&#8217;m not including the vanity &#8220;Look we&#8217;re a multinational and we&#8217;re on twitter&#8221; accounts that some companies like VMware, Dell etc run.  </p>
<p>Even a client driven engagement (as advocated by the VRM crowd), where the individual decides to follow the company to get updates won&#8217;t work via twitter.  The interface between the two parties simply isn&#8217;t fine grained or sophisticated enough to do any sort of intelligent @reply/tweet filtering.</p>
<p>Facebook on the other hand is a totally different proposition&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James Siminoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Siminoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James Whatley, I find it funny when I read your comment as without ever meeting you we have been involved in very &quot;classy&quot; warfare in the social universe.

The way that you at Spinvox and myself at PhoneTag have been able to use very public social marketing tools without creating awkwardness with the customers or overstepping the &quot;lines&quot; is one for the text books.

The &quot;self imposed rules&quot; that both you and I have created are so important in how you keep a companies message from becoming spam and int turn hurt the overall market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James Whatley, I find it funny when I read your comment as without ever meeting you we have been involved in very &#8220;classy&#8221; warfare in the social universe.</p>
<p>The way that you at Spinvox and myself at PhoneTag have been able to use very public social marketing tools without creating awkwardness with the customers or overstepping the &#8220;lines&#8221; is one for the text books.</p>
<p>The &#8220;self imposed rules&#8221; that both you and I have created are so important in how you keep a companies message from becoming spam and int turn hurt the overall market.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Tanham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Tanham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Pat.

@rune, Damien, Frank P &amp; others... I can see where your concerns are (and you&#039;re right to assume that many will go the spammy route) but I think this is a definite opportunity missed.

I would see no harm in (for example) John Smith from pampers saying &quot;Congratulations on the news, if you ever need any advice or help over the coming months feel free to send me a message any time&quot;. It&#039;s not overly pushy or spammy, opens the door to a potential new relationship and most importantly gives Robert the ability to simply say &quot;no thanks&quot;.

And because he&#039;s famous too there&#039;d be no harm sending a few free boxes of pampers his way!

I do this with a website of mine which has free leaving cert notes, if I spot someone tweeting that they&#039;re struggling with study I offer them some help. Very simple, nothing automated and all that&#039;s required is a simple &quot;no thanks&quot; if it&#039;s not needed.

&quot;it&#039;s marketing, Jim, but not as we know it&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Pat.</p>
<p>@rune, Damien, Frank P &amp; others&#8230; I can see where your concerns are (and you&#8217;re right to assume that many will go the spammy route) but I think this is a definite opportunity missed.</p>
<p>I would see no harm in (for example) John Smith from pampers saying &#8220;Congratulations on the news, if you ever need any advice or help over the coming months feel free to send me a message any time&#8221;. It&#8217;s not overly pushy or spammy, opens the door to a potential new relationship and most importantly gives Robert the ability to simply say &#8220;no thanks&#8221;.</p>
<p>And because he&#8217;s famous too there&#8217;d be no harm sending a few free boxes of pampers his way!</p>
<p>I do this with a website of mine which has free leaving cert notes, if I spot someone tweeting that they&#8217;re struggling with study I offer them some help. Very simple, nothing automated and all that&#8217;s required is a simple &#8220;no thanks&#8221; if it&#8217;s not needed.</p>
<p>&#8220;it&#8217;s marketing, Jim, but not as we know it&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: James Whatley</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Whatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*I was out when you first posted this. Reading through the comments most of the good points had been made already.. 

Hence: &quot;Damn&quot;

;) 

Keep up the good work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*I was out when you first posted this. Reading through the comments most of the good points had been made already.. </p>
<p>Hence: &#8220;Damn&#8221;</p>
<p> <img src='http://patphelan.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work</p>
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		<title>By: James Whatley</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Whatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn*. 

First off, a great post. You&#039;re right - it&#039;s surprising that no one has jumped on this. You&#039;d think, in this day, age and connected world we live in, that this would be a no-brainer. 

Well to folk like yourself and it would also see your friends and readers this is obvious. 

But the rest of the population it seems are still catching up. 

Frank makes a good point re intrusiveness; it;s a tough one to crack. I myself already have reasonably strict, self-imposed &#039;rules of engagement&#039; whenever I embark upon any SpinVox-themed conversation online.. 

And that&#039;s just voice-to-text!

When it comes to someone&#039;s personal life and moreover their children - personalized advertising in this way treads a very fine line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn*. </p>
<p>First off, a great post. You&#8217;re right &#8211; it&#8217;s surprising that no one has jumped on this. You&#8217;d think, in this day, age and connected world we live in, that this would be a no-brainer. </p>
<p>Well to folk like yourself and it would also see your friends and readers this is obvious. </p>
<p>But the rest of the population it seems are still catching up. </p>
<p>Frank makes a good point re intrusiveness; it;s a tough one to crack. I myself already have reasonably strict, self-imposed &#8216;rules of engagement&#8217; whenever I embark upon any SpinVox-themed conversation online.. </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s just voice-to-text!</p>
<p>When it comes to someone&#8217;s personal life and moreover their children &#8211; personalized advertising in this way treads a very fine line.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Walsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not at all surprised. With my BIMA hat on, I can say that many companies have yet to grasp the importance of &#039;digital&#039;, let alone very very new tools such as Twitter. It&#039;s easy for us to get caught up in &#039;early-adopter&#039; mode. 

It&#039;s still very early days for *most*. Some of my friends who are in senior positions at large organistations still don&#039;t get twitter and Facebook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not at all surprised. With my BIMA hat on, I can say that many companies have yet to grasp the importance of &#8216;digital&#8217;, let alone very very new tools such as Twitter. It&#8217;s easy for us to get caught up in &#8216;early-adopter&#8217; mode. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s still very early days for *most*. Some of my friends who are in senior positions at large organistations still don&#8217;t get twitter and Facebook.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Fabretti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Fabretti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@florian - agreed! Wait until you see what they have coming up later this year! It&#039;s pretty darn good - I should know, I helped them with it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@florian &#8211; agreed! Wait until you see what they have coming up later this year! It&#8217;s pretty darn good &#8211; I should know, I helped them with it!</p>
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